Yep, i was discussing it with the guys today in game. The M16 is still usable, BUT, it's not as GOOD as it used to be, whatever, still ok.

The choppers however (and yes, i've changed my opinion) have become completelly useless. A couple of STINGERs and it will get it down.

The GUNSHIP (on PS3) is not as resistant as it should be in my opinion. It only takes a coordinated jet attack to take it down :S

I obviously haven't played AK yet, but I've seen the AC130 being take down by jets in rush in one pass.

I also haven't played chooper/anti-chopper since the patch. The previous version, Stingers/IGLAs were useless against a chopper. A Pilot/Gunner mixing ECM/flares were untouchable by them, and jets could just fly away before you got a second lock-on, after they had flared or used ECM. So the Stinger/IGLA buff is welcome (from just reading, not played) not so sure about the chopper nerf though, or certainly not nerfing this much, the IGLA/STINGER buff could have been enough if say they maybe increased recharge time for the ECM/Flares, rather than removing them from the gunner.

I suppose it makes sense taking it away from the gunner, it's 1 chopper, both people shouldn't get countermeasures. But by the sounds of it they should have reduced the cooldown on ECM/Flares

Imo, the M16 is now jack of some trades, master of nothing. :3 The recoil management does really change with the more intense right-pull.

I love the things they did to the chopper. So easy to kill infantry while pilot.

Wow, I just played a few rounds using the UMP-45. Thing is an absolute killer on the smaller TDM, Rush, and CQ maps now. A 3-shot-kill to 8m, and a 4-shot up to 20m, in addition to extremely controllable recoil, I honestly predict that it's usage will go up substantially.

You guys should go out and try for yourselves. I actually went 68-28 on a Kharg Island TDM using only the UMP and maybe 4-6 93R kills.