So DICE has released the official Battlefield 3 patch notes. The patch will go live September 4th (tomorrow) which coincides with the PS3 Premium release of Armored Kill (good luck to those with slow internet).

WEAPONS BALANCING
Reload timer adjustments
A number of weapons have had their reload timers adjusted to better fit their animations and gameplay balance. For most of these weapons the gameplay timers were slightly out of sync with the actual reload animation, meaning the player could either fire before the animation was done, or had to wait longer than the animation played. Primarily this is a cosmetic change (around 0.1sec); however for a few weapons (M416, F2000, FAMAS, KH2002, MK3A1, JNG90, MG36 QBU-88, SVD, Pecheneg, SCAR-H, AN-94) this should also improve the performance of the weapon. Full details below:
• Short and Long reload reduced: SCAR-L, AEK-971, F2000, AN-94, AK-74, PP2000, G3A3, SKS, MG36, JNG-90, MK3A1, SCAR-H, SVD, QBZ-95B
• Long reload reduced: AUG A3, 44 Magnum, KH2002, Pecheneg, L85A2, QBB-95, M1911, MP7
• Short reload reduced: M417, FAMAS, M39 EBR, M416, PP-19, QBU-88
• Short and long reload increased: ASVal
• Long reload reduced, shot reload increased: M4A1
• Long reload increased: P90

Damage output/range adjustments
• UMP: Increased the close range damage of the UMP but reduced its damage over range. The UMP now has a sweet spot in CQB but suffers compared to the PP2000 at longer ranges.
• PP2000: Increased the long range damage of the PP2000 to highlight its role as a mid-range, low recoil PDW.
• M1911: Increased the minimum damage of the M1911 to make it fit better between the Magnums and the M9/MP443
• M93: Reduced the M93R’s damage and range, as it was an obvious go to pistol compared to the M9/MP443. Its recoil has been reduced for a smoother burst action to counter the reduced damage.
• 12G Frag rounds: These rounds have been adjusted to do their damage in a smaller area but to be more consistently apply the maximum possible damage.
• AA: Slightly increased the damage of the AA against infantry, the AA was simply over nerfed in a previous update. The AA guns now also properly do damage to MBTs again.
• 12 Gauge buckshot close range damage has been slightly increased.
• Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on the SCAR-H.
• Increased bullet velocity for the coaxial HMG, making it easier to hit targets over longer ranges.
• Increased the minimum range of the 40mm Flechette and tightened the cone of fire for more consistent damage levels.
• Slightly reduced the range bonus added by the heavy barrel on the 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 6.5mm Assault Rifles.
• Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on 5.56mm, 5.45mm, and 6.5mm weapons: AR, Carbine, and LMG.
• Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on the SCAR-H.
• Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on 5.56mm, 5.45mm, and 6.5mm weapons: AR, Carbine, and LMG.
• Slightly reduced the range bonus added by the heavy barrel on the 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 6.5mm Assault Rifles.
• Increased the damage of the M5K.

A select set of weapons have had their recoil adjusted based on joint community feedback and statistical analysis to provide greater balance in the weapon choices players make. Specifically, the M16A3 and M4A1 have increased recoil to make them less attractive in all situations. Competing weapons like the SG553, G36C and M416 have been improved to also increase viable player choice in primary weapons.
• SG553: Horizontal recoil reduced to help make this weapon more controllable.
• MG36: Vertical recoil reduced to make this weapon more controllable.
• M416: Vertical, Horizontal, and First Shot recoil have all been reduced to make this weapon clearly different from the M16A3.
• M16A3: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
• M4A1: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
• G36C: Vertical and First Shot recoil amounts reduced.
• M16A4 and M4: These weapons have been adjusted for the increased recoil they now have. The burst versions of these weapons give the player a reduction in horizontal recoil for greater control.

Miscellaneous weapons changes
• FIM92 and IGLA now lock on to air vehicles at both lower altitudes and longer distances.
• Added Burst Fire to the M5K as an available fire mode.
• Increased the bonuses provided by a number of bipods: F2000, G3A3, M27, M416, Pecheneg, Type88, FAMAS, MG36
• Belt Fed Machine guns are now more accurate when standing and firing while aiming. This affects the M240, M249, Type88, Pecheneg, and LSAT.
• 44 Magnum: Rate of fire reduced slightly to highlight this side arm’s role as a slow firing heavy hitter and differentiate it from the MP412 REX.
• Increased the fire rate and reload time of the MP412 REX to better highlight the improved CQB performance over the 44 Magnum.
• Removed burst fire from the L85 and added Single Shot to the L86 as is authentic for these weapons.
• Slightly increased the radius for maximum damage of the 40mm LVG. While the overall damage level remains the same, the LVG will be lethal over a larger area.
• Reduced the aimed accuracy bonus of the M417 with a suppressor to balance it with the other weapons in the game.
• Increased the aimed accuracy bonus of the ACW-R, L86 LSW, LSAT, MP5K and MTAR with a suppressor to balance with the other weapons in the game.

Weapons fixes
• Underslung weapons on the AUG and SCAR-L now properly benefit from the hip accuracy bonus of an attached laser sight.
• The SOFLAM will no longer lock onto your own vehicle if deployed and not immediately activated by the player.
• SCAR-L: Fixed the heavy barrel not increasing recoil when zoomed and standing.
• Corrected some incorrect descriptions of clip sizes and bullet types for weapons added in Close Quarters: M5K, LSAT, and ACW-R
• The PKS-07 is now available on QBB-95
• The M417’s foregrip was incorrectly reducing horizontal recoil by too large an amount. It has been adjusted to be balanced with other foregrips.
• The ACR Foregrip, MG36, QBB-95 and RPK Extended magazines as well as the RPK and SKS Heavy Barrel are now able to be unlocked and equipped in the accessory screen.
• Fixed an issue with incorrect damage for the M320 buck when used with certain attachments.
• MK3A1 now uses flechette rounds instead of Frag rounds in Gun Master mode (in Close Quarters).

VEHICLE RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
• Removed flares from gunner position in helicopters. With the right combination of unlocks, an attack helicopter could be effectively invulnerable to lock on missiles. Removing the flares from the gunner balances the attack helicopter against ground fire.
• Air Radar now shows friendly vehicles as well.
• Helicopter weapons can now destroy equipment with splash damage.
• The Laser Designator unlock on the Scout Helicopters has been changed from a Pilot Upgrade to a new stance in the Copilot seat (position 4). Like the CITV turret on the Main Battle Tanks, the Scout Helicopter’s Laser Designator is permanently available to players who have received the unlock.
• Repair tool damage against enemy vehicles lowered by 10%.
• Changed reload behavior on Tank / Tank Destroyer cannon weapons to prevent being able to fire 2 shots from different weapons quickly one right after another.
• Firing mode can now be seen from the vehicle passenger seats where you are allowed to fire your own weapons.
• Fixed the hit indicator showing when entering a vehicle after previously shooting a soldier.
• Increased the damage helicopter and jet rockets do to helicopters, jets and infantry.
• Increased the damage helicopter gunners and IFVs do to helicopters and jets.
• Fixed Jets not getting top attack damage bonuses on Laser Designated targets.

PERSISTENCE RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
• Changed how MCOM station defend/attack kill score is calculated. Victim no longer needs to arm/disarm the crate but rather be in a 5 meter radius of the crate. Also increased kills needed for the Crate Defend Ribbon from 2 to 4. Overall, these changes should make it somewhat easier to get the ribbon, while increasing the opportunity for strategic play around MCOM stations.
• Premium Engineer assignments are now counting all shotgun kills independent from the class using it.
• Fixed so you can get score from awards in coop.
• Accuracy dogtags now show the correct stats.
• Coop Stars and dogtag are now properly unlockable and equip able.
• Gun Master and Domination Winner ribbons and medals added.
• Fix for assignment with multiple dependencies showing as unlocked in frontend. (Jack of All Trades & Only for the Dedicated)

UI RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
• Added letters to the capture point icons displayed directly over the mini-map.
• Fixed the grenade counter acting strangely when entering a vehicle with a grenade in hand.
• Fixed the damage indicator which showed the wrong direction if the damage dealer was dead.
• Fixed the hit indicator showing when spawning or closing the in game menu.
• PC specific: Fixed laser designator related icons disappearing from the screen when you enable the chat.
• Fixed a bug where the clan tag sometimes shows as the player ID.
• Added clan tags in nametags and kill card.
• PC specific: Fixed the vehicle hit indicator being shown each time you re-enter the first person camera of a ground vehicle.
• Fixed so commorose VO works when sitting in an AA vehicle.
• Fixed so you get the critical health fullscreen color tint while in the post revive state.
• Removed the join button in the server list for non-Premium users on Premium exclusive servers.
• Fixed so the spawn menu always disappears when you are revived.
• Bugfix the colorblind objectives showing the wrong icons and blinking with a black background.
• Fixed M-Com distance not updating if user moves towards it with EOD Bot.
• Mortar strike explosions are now shown on the HUD for the shooter.

MISCELLANEOUS TWEAKS & FIXES
• Fixed so the MAV gadget will not remain floating in midair if the user exits it while still flying.
• Fixed bug where it was possible to shoot while transitioning from sprint into prone.
• Fixed so you can’t revive a player who switched team since he died.
• Fixed two exploits on Donya Fortress that allowed players to get on top of the level.
• Fixed bug where you could get an incorrectly calculated longest headshot with the EOD bot.
• PS3/Xbox 360 specific: Added map rotation settings to preset list in detailed server info. Players can now see all relevant settings that are being run on the server.
• Xbox 360 specific: Introduced a clickable promotional spot on the main menu.


PLAYSTATION 3 SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Armored Kill goes live: September 4 for Premium members / September 18 for non-Premiums
Patch size: 1.53GB
Armored Kill size: 1.55GB
How to download patch: When starting the game, the patch will automatically download. It is mandatory to accept this download if you want to play the game.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill is available on the PlayStation Store and in our in-game store as a manual download. If you are a Premium member, this download will be available at 0 cost.

XBOX 360 SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Armored Kill goes live: September 11 for Premium members / September 25 for non-Premiums
Patch size: 1.44GB
Armored Kill size: 1.56GB
How to download patch: There will first be a small (184MB) Title Update automatically downloaded when you start the game. When restarting the game, you will get a popup notifying you that Multiplayer Update 4 is available. It is not mandatory to accept this, but we advise you to do so. Otherwise, you can find Multiplayer Update 4 both on Xbox Live Marketplace and in our in-game store as a manual download.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill is available in our in-game store as a manual download. If you are a Premium member, this download will be available at 0 cost. If you are not a Premium member, you can also find Armored Kill on Xbox Live Marketplace.

PC SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Patch size: ~2.2GB
Armored Kill size: 3.2GB
Armored Kill goes live: September 11 for Premium members / September 25 for non-Premiums
How to download patch: As soon as you start your Origin client, the latest game update will automatically start downloading (unless you’ve disabled the option “Automatically keep my games up to date”, in which case it will start downloading when you try to run the game). In Battlelog, you will be notified from the Game Manager. Once you acknowledge the update, it will start downloading within the Origin client.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill will automatically download if you start Origin or if you are logged in to Battlelog. You can also start the download from the Battlefield 3 game details page (i symbol) if Origin is already running.


http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/2832654785571482527/

All discussion can go here.

it sucks that gunner in heli doesnt get flares >:/

i like that you just have to be near to the mcom to arm/disarm

I'm rather disappointed in these patch notes

smae,

its because all the noobs moan about anything so it gets patched

They should do a patch that increases M16 power

They need to patch the damn .50 cal...how many times do you have to hit an infantryman with it in order to kill them?

Taking flares off the co-pilots station? That sucks.

totalwarrior6780 wrote:

smae,

its because all the noobs moan about anything so it gets patched

They should do a patch that increases M16 power

Yeah, should do 300 Damage at 100m

I think taking the flares off gunner is good, it made them nearly impossible to take them down.

They didn't mention taking ECM off the gunner

Wow that's seems to be a big patch. And all those weapon changes yet again. They will always tip to the side of catering to the masses, the noobs. Don't they understand changes in one gun will make another seem better or worse, and it's the player, not the gun alone, and really great players regardless of the gun.

I agree Major, enemies should die with just a couple of hits from a freaking .50 cal.

I haven't read it all but I'm sure there's going to be a new OP and UP weapons, some new noob guns, and a whole lot of adjusting once again.

so many just pointless changes :\

looks like the m416 will be the better use over the m16a3

Lets get a vote going

which gun will take the place as the new M16?

My vote is M416/AEK

rivalxfactor made a video where he stated that the AEK would be ALSO nerfed.. so im going for the m416.

Some of these changes are pretty fucking weird, however i dgaf since i'll have many tank maps and i luv tanks <3

the AEk won't be nerfed, it will be benefited actually. it might seem a slight downgrade depending on the attachments you use now, but the AEK will roll well still. I myself might turn to place more focus on it over the m16 now, however also to the m416 now as well

HAHA anyone who uses the m16a3 cant defend it. Haha it has no recoil when shooting in auto, which is funny cause in real life the m16a3 doesn't have a fully automatic fire mode but the gun does have a burst fire mode and its not easy to control that gun in burst fire mode, so im glad they uped the recoil cause maybe now we wont see a whole team of medics running around with AEKs and M16s. What dice should do next time is hire a bunch of military trained infantry men just your basic 0311 or basic recon guy and have them shoot every gun in every fire mode and than have them take notes and give the feed back on the guns haha. S*** they wouldn't even have to pay me to do it

I use the M16 and still will

It's a good gun, people moan about everything in this game. I could easily moan about how if you have an engineer repairing a tank it's so hard to destroy, Then they go and make heli gunners have no flares?

Seriously those noobs who suck at the game need to stop complaining

c'mon total, im a tank driver and you know thats complete bullshit... A good chopper pilot can just F*** up everything on their way. The only thing they are doing by removing the flare on the gunner seat is make it more tactical

Yes but at the same time a good pilot and gunner is teamwork which is what the games about. besides one tank shot or a good jet pilot (redviper ) can easily take one down

totalwarrior6780 wrote:

Yes but at the same time a good pilot and gunner is teamwork which is what the games about. besides one tank shot or a good jet pilot (redviper ) can easily take one down

It's not like they are completely removing the gunner seat... I've also seen choppers (using the tactic DICE/EA is trying to avoid) taking down jets like they are flies.

Imo its a good change but hey, thats just me

The Igla is gonna be so annoying now when I'm flying -.-

Wow. Why can't it be like COD patches where nothing gets fixed?

Ridiculous M16A3 nerf. Point saying it didnt have recoil? howmany kills you have with the gun? Ptsss just saying

If it didnt have any everyone would have used it :s

And the M416 was already a beast, so it will beast more, and im sure that one will get nerfed next time, because its sooo overpowered boehoe.

F*** it, i dont and didnt handycap myself to one rifle so ill be fine anyways.

Hip fire those belt fed lmg's like crazy untill that one gets ''overpowered''

lets all be gun hipsters and only use m16 after the patch :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd

this patch is ridiculous!!

why dice always listem to people who cry for an op weapon or veichle

COME ON!!

Adept my brother, adept



noobs will stay noobs

I'm actually really happy that the M16A3 was nerfed hard, its about time those xXx1337xMLGpR0z0rzxXx find a real gun...

M16 wasn't nerfed hard...

Left recoil is less than M416
Upwards recoil is same as M416
Right recoil is more than M416

M416 first shot recoil is 1.8, M16 is 2.5.

The M16 will still be what it always has been, Jack of All Trades, Master of None. The difference is this patch has made people realise that there are actually alternative assault rifles out there.
M416 doesn't compete at close range because of the slower ROF and smaller bullet velocity.

One thing I am surprised at is the buff of the M5k and UMP-45.

The M5K was always pretty useless, but now it does 25 damage, and the UMP-45 does 34 damage.

The UMP is a bit confusing though. The damage drop off is quite high, and after around 30-40m it does the same damage as the other PDWs, this would make it a CQ weapon, however it is 600 RPM and has a relatively slow bullet velocity, so doesn't perform that well on time-to-kill compared to other PDWs such as the P90, which fire 900 RPM.

The UMP-45 also has a really high first shot recoil (2.75) so it kinda has no use anywhere in my opinion, correct me if I'm wrong.