The following is a detailed attack plan for those already accustomed to the fundamentals of Rush. It is assumed that you know how classes work, how to outfit them, how to arm charges and the basics of setting up to defend them.





Our warp base does not advance with the taking of zone 1. due to the fact that zone 1 is an island. Once taken, we should retreat off of the island and encourage any enemies to stay there. The Bradley and Chopper warp at the same point as zone 1 assault. We always run the risk here of getting bogged down in the long and treacherous midground, so the chopper is our very bestest friend. KEEP IT ALIVE.

It is VERY important in this attack to kill Bravo first and all our attention should be focused on that goal. Simply, Alpha is, for whatever reason, completely impossible to defend (you can kill it from across the level with miniguns fired from the chopper in about 8 seconds PLUS there's a glitch which allows any smerf to kill it with their knife - don't you do this)

We should carry the momentum from the first attack over to this zone if at all possible and the assault on Bravo should feel like a continuation of the same motion. In many cases, it is advisable to suicide back into the choppers for rapid deployment.


Position 1: Bravo's Back
There is a field behind bravo surrounded by a corrugated fence. We can use that fence to hold bravo by shooting through it and around it. Same story as the first assault, we should bring smoke and medics. Use the smoke to cover the high ground and flank, then light and work the fences for defense.

Position 2: The stairs.
The stairs here can be worked from a few different angles and should also be utilized to cover the approach to Bravo from the east. Make sure to smoke your southeastern back and Alpha.

For Position 1 and 2. Do not use the very tempting cement pipes just north of Bravo. They are in LOS of enemy warp and will get you dead from about five directions at once.

Position 3: Alpha's back.
This position is where you should go if you've trundled up the road and gained the choke point. Don't stay in the choke, instead get to here. There will be enemies waiting here, so throw some grenades and smoke to gain it. Once this position is held, you should be safe from enemy fire for~ 8 seconds. Use those seconds to get to position 4.

Position 4: Warp pin.
From the buildings along the eastern side of the valley, a zombie squad can make warping life very hard for the enemy. It's a good place to be while Bravo is lit and a good place from which to rush up the hill and into the next zone along the eastern edge. You will get counter attacked here if the zone doesn't fall, so stay frosty.

The Bradley: will get killed in the choke, so don't go there. Instead, veer off to the west as soon as you're able and get a spawn point going there. By blowing holes in fences, you can get clean LOS to Bravo from the position shown and keep enemies from disarming. The Bradley is pretty weak here and should only be used as a second option if the rapid assault fails.

The chopper: Is tantamount here. KEEP IT ALIVE. When the zone falls it is YOUR job it get a gunner over the hill and mini-gun the HIND before it takes off in zone 3. Don't try to steal the HIND. Don't try to steal the HIND. Just mini-gun it. Go about 5 seconds after both objectives fall. If the hind gets airborne, you are dead, so land the chopper and take position 3 of the next zone.



If the HIND in this zone falls into the wrong hands it is the most difficult zone in the game to take. If not, then it's one of the easiest. Regarless, if we stay tight and advancing we should be able to take it. Bring medics, bring smoke.
The following actions should be taken as fast as possible. Bypassing defenders is unspeakably clutch on this assault. Remember, the crest of the hill is THEIRS, if we are "holding" it, we are loosing. The goal is to get past it. Again, if we are "holding" the ridge, we are loosing.



Position 1: The Happily Placed Hallway.
There is a hallway along the western edge of the valley that leads directly to Bravo along a tarpaulin fence. Advance up it quickly and together with smoke and medics. Remember to watch the elevated MG during approach.
Once you're at Bravo, smoke the area, light it and spread out in the copious cover offered. Getting one guy along the west wall of the hanger can help cut off the enemy warp as can the positions south of the helo pad.

Position 2: The slightly Lesser Hallway.
Same as position one on the east, with less good cover. Once the charge is lit, focus entirely on cutting off warp by moving north to position 3 and east
to position 4 (if not done simultaneously, the guys going east will get flanked).

Position 3: The backstab.
This is tricky and damn effective. To work, you need to get great cover. There are cement blocks north of the hangar specifically placed for this purpose, use them. From them you will have the enemy's back on warp and can kill many many. The position is too weak to hold for long, so after one cycle (kill the team once) you need to move. Ideally to the HIND .

Position 4: Surrounded.
Getting here is getting your squad intentionally surrounded. It is scary and fun and if done while both objectives are lit, decapitates enemy disarming attempts.

Bradley: Outfit with smoke and bring a squad to the position indicated between the two green buildings. Fumigate and fire on all movement, concentrating on annihilating the raised MG emplacements. You will be a distraction. The rest of the Bradley squad should fire their guns then jump out through the smoke and double back round the yellow path to position 2. Light the charge.

If our momentum is lost on this zone, we'll need to start taking ground conventionally. Remember that no matter what the ridge-line is on the enemy's team, so push up their weaker side and try to achieve a flank. Once we've driven them out of the front of the zone, quickly light the charge and try to cut off their warp using position 4 and the hangar. Also, both these objectives are open, so the C4ing the UAV can become a good option here.

The Choppers:
Should we be awesome enough to still have our Blackhawk, it should drop it's troops in position two after killing the grounded HIND. If we already have a strong hold on position 2, (if we're doing well) the chopper should drop on position 3, then circle strafe the enemy warp, concentrating on being in the right place to kill the HIND again and again.

If you get the chance to steal the HIND do so, but be careful. While spooling up, you are VERY vulnerable, so the safest bet is to have a buddy ready to nuke it should you fail. Once airborne, someone should suicide into it to act as gunner. Your job now becomes to simply stay alive. The HIND's optimal role is to kill all the enemies on warp, but it's most important role is keeping it from the enemy... lol.
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Study this carefully and try to imagine 12 ppl working together on it. In no other attack is what you alone are doing less important. While we're working together and quickly, this attack should feel like one fluid motion, a spear driven north.


That's it for this attack, may we never loose it again.

See you on the Battlefield. Spiralus out.

Questions I have.

1) Can a player work there way along the entire right edge of the map?

2) Can a player take the road to the left and around to the back of base 3 once the Move Up signal is given?

1. yes but that player will always be way behind a good attack.
2. no. The map ends ~15m west of Bravo in zone 2 and follows the western cliffband behind the HIND in zone 3. This map's border shows open airspace, not ground space on 360. We should probably edit it to reflect that.

The green trail dots I have on zone 3 follow the borders.

Good questions.

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Ack, we lost this attack today after sprinting through the first 2 zones. Things got hectic with the friggin HIND again. It's so important that we all know what we're gonna do as soon as zone 2 drops.

Also, I may be missing spawn points. If you notice enemies "free spawning" outside the purple zones I've marked, I want to hear about it.

You can fault me for having taken the Hind when it spawned and then crashing it. In the future, I would be inclined to advise, if captured, we take keep it safe from being used by the defenders. At the most, we would use the Hind as a transport to carry 3 squad members into base 3. As a result of them getting the Hind back into the fight on their side, they used it well to shut us down at the very end.

Also, like many other bases, allowing the defenders to blast away all of the cover on the hill, makes it too easy for them to spot us rushing.

We really had the early advantage because the defenders were too focused on attacking our spawn. Maybe we need to focus on wearing ceramic armor to give us a survival edge.

I also noted we weren't running C4 teams in favor of Medics and Smokers.

However, it is important to note even though we play a 10 vs game, we were basically playing as a 4-6 squad member rush. In this regard, I think we did very well, but lost what little edge we had once they were backed into the corner.

IMHO, given the teamwork nature DICE designed for the game, the game is sorely lacking as far as really being able to coordinate the entire team to limit unnecessary ATT bleed.

Last point... I have heard others say BC2 is becoming much easier game for defenders and more of a challenge for attackers. If/when the PC game patches make to the 360, this may well become more exaggerated as some PC players have commented.

All true. I don't think C4ing is a good option on this attack. It's too open. Smoke wins here because it solves that problem. The reasons we lost tonight were that we were too slow, too disorganized and, if anything, didn't smoke zone 3 enough. Those blue lines are where we want smoke, starting south and advancing north. Armor... great idea on attack in general... since it's better to bypass ppl than to kill them generally...I'll start using it, don't know why I haven't done been using it come to think of it...

To clarify, you found that position 3 worked then? Imagine a whole squad back there... you'd have had a gunner.

I would also note the the "lesser hallway" approach on zone 3 it is imperative to smoke the concrete pillars prior to making that run. The enemy has los on the approach and will mow down any respectable rush. Also it might be worth having one player go to the building beyond the mcomm on the far eastern edge and act as a spawnpoint should the initial attack fail. That area has no descent Los and rarely has enemys by it. Note this area can also be used as an end around to the hind or to pick off the enemy in their warp to confuse and disrupt them (think magic crates in zone 3 of valparaiso)

word, that's meant to be part of position 1. Good call on the wall (I assume wall from pillars?). It's a nasty push, but probably the best way in. If they're already stacked there (as happened last night, we should go around the west as Deecon suggested (it almost broke the enemy team with just the two of us).

aye the concrete wall that creates the front border of zone 3. Might I also suggest that we try using the Bradley with smoke countermeasures as a diversion for the choke point on zone 2 approach.

UAV + Smoke would also be helpful.

yup. yup. I like the Bradley more for smoke. Let's C4 the UAV in zone three if our first assault fails like the other night. This whole plan is meant to be done at a do or die pace, so if the first push fails, we'll need to start thinking outside the box (true of any plan, really).
I strongly feel that unless we have more than 2 full squads, we should perform the movements we've laid out here quickly and we'll be met with success. At least try to.
I'm adding the Bradley idea to zone 3 now, if we can get that in position as part of the assault on Bravo, it would really help.

Smoke with the UAV makes me itch because there's no heavy armor in the zone to kill. Unless the UAV is also nuking the HIND when it warps (something we can do other ways), a smoke assault will be more useful (as he is shooting enemies, is a warp point can pick up a med kit etc.)

i thought the UAV + C4 is frowned upon here. am i wrong?

I think that there could be improvements to that plan
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1) 2 Helos equals half the airspace to maneuver. If one gets shot down, it alters the entire strategy. The helos would have to come in succession in order to have maximum effect. Or go as far as to use the Helos as a distraction for a boat team to come through the western waterfront.


2) For a tactical advantage, Having diffusing elimination insurance is never bad. The best route to make sure things don't backfire is to have at least ONE excellent recon to pick off anyone attempting to disarm, or compromise tactical position

3) Use of the Bradley is essential. but if you allow it to be a minor part in the equation, then the destruction of the Bradley would make moralize the opposing team, causing them to push back. If you keep an Engineer on the Bradley at all times and use it at a distance, it will prove to be a demoralization factor and pin down any infantry. Just be sure to eliminate Opposing anti-armor

4) Allow a squad to be strictly for arming. Armed with shotguns and armor, they could rip a hole in the enemy bases all the while using their explosives to set traps.

primalfury97 wrote:

i thought the UAV + C4 is frowned upon here. am i wrong?

I initiated a Squad Staff discussion/debate on UAV + C4. Many folks provided comment. The leadership has revised it's rules and now allows the use of UAV + C4.

We still think it's a cheese tactic, but since DICE has failed to fix the exploit in the latest PC game patch, it's hard to argue they did not intend for the exploit to be used.

Okay, I see. Not that I'm gonna be doing that all the time, but it's just nice to know the rules.