I havent played because im on xbox but i heard it is terrible, can someone verify this please?

It nerfs mav so ya its terrible

Haha but along the lines of weapons accuracy, i heard that it is impossible to hit people and the suppression is terrible.

ApplesausGoblin wrote:

Haha but along the lines of weapons accuracy, i heard that it is impossible to hit people and the suppression is terrible.

WOW! So if that's true than its even HARDER to kill people than it already is

You will all get used to it after a few days, heck maybe even a few games. Just learn how the weapon shoots, and adjust your aim to hit those targets.

Both vertical and horizontal muzzle drift have been increased at least by 20%. That's not including how bad they are when you add a foregrip. Which doesn't do anything useful anymore. Flash suppressors and suppressors are more useful now but that's about it. That and they haven't really nerfed the USAS-12 FRAG rounds all that much. Oh and pretty much every guns damage and accuracy have been nerfed and all the sniper rifles have been given a HUGE increase in damage. Two shots to the chest and they're done. In short...Yes the patch sucks

luckily one sniper shot to the chest doesn't kill. then everyone would use it

Not to mention if you get suppressed your pretty much dead. Gunfights boil down to who shoots first wins. >

I'm not sure if that would stop running and gunning. if someone running around ran into someone is watching the alley, the runner should lose

It's better IMO

I find it the same to get kills the map looks better and now no more running when aav chases me

Guns are better IMO as it's more tactical

And it's not whoever shoots wins D;

Some noob shooting at me yesterday so I turn around and put 10 bullets in his skull

the patch is good and you can still mav ppl i did it already and my mav didnt blow up

I can say this, they increased the damage tanks take from rockets and they nerfed helicopter heat seakers. I was in several dogfights with attack helicopters last night and even after 6, yes SIX, missiles hit the enemy helicopter the thing was still flying... most of the time, it was the gunner that took the helo out...

SxNxOxWxMxAxN wrote:

the patch is good and you can still mav ppl i did it already and my mav didnt blow up

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

lol, look like it's back to complaining on some of these changes.

yea the supression is nuts, before the patch getting a supression ribbon wasnt that comon, now i got a supression ribbon every match. But, finaly got my medal tho

The recoil is something i have to get used to aswell

All I know is suppressor on a gun used to be good. more accurate and don't appear on the map why wouldn't you use it

The biggest change I dont like is that they have removed the 20 second period at the beginning where you stand still, it may sound weird but trust me, its kind of awkward spawning and then spinning around trying to find the vehicle you want and then running to it.

from what i heard the patch is horrible it just makes the guns more unbalanced

Im scared to play it when it comes out!

I haven't downloaded it

apparently it takes along time

1 gig hell im leaving it over night or while im at school

NOOOOOO, the shortcut thing is coming to PC too. That's a load of BS. So players are going to have an unlock in 2 secs, that I have yet to unlock after 200 hours. What?

They are also adding another flag to Wake Island and making the Anti-Air spawn on the beach.

flame211 wrote:

1 gig hell im leaving it over night or while im at school

lol u guys internet must suck it took me 15 min to download it

Just got done playing it with several other 13th members and it's S*** I hate it so much it made me turn off the system altogether

It's not just the guns that are nerfed (which is complete horseshit) the vehicles are completely different. You take more damage from things, scout helos can be taken out with one shot from RPGs(which I don't mind) miniguns on scout helos SUCK against other helos, attack helicopters are easier to fly, the rockets are different and do a tiny bit more damage and are way too inacurate. Basically like Havok said ingame, it's like were flying and driving vehicles made of paper and were shooting childrens toys. It's supposed to be a patch not a completely different game.

well there is an easy fix to that stop playing the game if you dont like it