Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality

Since People call me the conspiracy Guy a lot, i figured i will go ahead and post a few videos here, and you can watch them if you are really interested , Maybe when you have nothing better to do.

Carpe Diem
-Toryin
Ps. if you wish to critisize me because of your own believes , I would suggest to Inform/educate yourself about the topic and look at all the facts, also form your own opinion on this Video Material by wachting, before complaining...Then we can argue on a fair Basis.
Truth is Truth and always gets revealed
The last 3 VIDEOS are highly informative and i once again would like to recommend watching these.
Also if you really watched the viewing material and kind of understand what is really going on you can go all the way down and read what Paul Craig Roberts has to say on his farewell editorial Post, he was The Hottest and most cited Wall street Journal editor on the globe and also former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury.
IT IS WORTH READING and you will thank me if all of this was unknown to you.

lemme start of with something Funny before it gets serious

Heh, not alot of people would like my views on things. Im here if ya want to give em a shot, just ask.

Boy, Jon stwart is Hilarious. Sorry but I dont understand American politics alot. I understand it but at same time I aint so interested in it. But as I see the they Daily show Youtube the media must be trying to Hide Paul since he wants to end the wars and propaganda while that might not be in the interests for the US Government since they might still need a war?? Or maybe the Media just want more war media coverage. Those are my guesses to be honest.

too much teaxt

damn man did you watch all of those
tl;dr and tl;dw plz

Toryin wrote:

everybody has prolly watched this one hear , i dont agree with everyting pertaining religion....but the 2 and 3 are right on

I agree strongly with the religion part in this video. It is basically the way I see religion.
Thanks for posting these videos Toryin!

I thought this was hilarious... and I'm not intending to anger anyone.

splintercellsz wrote:

I thought this was hilarious... and I'm not intending to anger anyone.

It sounds Crazy as hell and its just one of many christian interpretations
Religion is only based on believes...Not Facts , Thats y it would only bring endless discussions, as nobdy can proof that they are right..Even atheists only can believe:-)
, this sounds like the catholic,Baptist,evangelic versions that are haevily influenced by pagan( christmas, Easter) and other old world religions .
I grew up to believe in the bible, as i really recognized the True wisdom in it , Through my grandma beeing jehova witness ,they thoroughly study the bible and do not believe that jehova(god) and Jesus are the same person, Jesus was not born on x.mas and the Devil owns this world (thats y he offered it to jesus on mt. olive), also we do not beleive in hell(shoell) and would never drink from the wine or eat the bread as this is only for the ones who will go to heaven and reign with jesus over gods kingdom which will decent on earth( in a big space ship ) LOL
I also c wisdom in the Koran and my friend is a true muslim, who would never kill anyone and has True love for God. but y should i b right if he is not? what about the millions of people in asia or elsewhere? will they perish cause they had the badluck of not beeing born in the middle east or europe?? and thus were no jews,muslims, christians...thats BULL
and not to forgett the flying spaghetti monster people their god is tasty.
only if you would know the truth for certain and not follow it , only then god would judge you, as long as its only believe nobody can b sure or claim to b correct
So much for religon ,
but if you look at it in another context it does make sense, as angels are aliens and
god(transdimensional beeing) can surley clone another person out of a rip (we can do it from cells, aswell)
LOL maybe we can feast from sunlight in the future and take in all our energy thru neutrons which our body will then trasonform in to what ever Molecule(vitamins,proteins,carbs etc. we need it.
can we go back to the real topic? the ones we do have proof for?
;-)

watch Supernatural [youtube][/youtube]

9/11 is a huge attack on its own people. So much prro has been presented on that topic, yet people find it so hard to believe that the Government would kill its own people. But look at the 1920's (or whenever it was) prohibition. The Government intentionally poisoned alcohol, leading to thousands of people dying, and being super sick. History always repeats itself.

I'm going to proceed to kick small puppies. The Pentagon and 9/11 were U.S operated? Please youtube, BULLSHIT THE PUBLIC MORE! Actually, hell with the small puppies, I'm going to go kick 1 homeless child for every youtube video there is like these.

Needless to say, the city of Pittsburgh is going to wake up to the sound of crying and moaning homeless kids.
















Important note: If you took that post seriously.....you didn't notice the fact that I'm in DeathDealers.

Hey Toryin,

Thanks for the info man. I just read Paul Craig's article... It's amazing. It's the testimony of a man that has given everything for the truth. But I guess It's kind of sad he does seem to say goodbye on that article, like he has given up on this... He may be right thought.

I haven't watched the videos yet. But I'll do that tomorrow.

Also, I hope the "conspiracy guy" thing doesn't bother you. You know I—and I'm sure everyone else too—respect you. You'll never hear that "label" from me.

Thx NMD
I appreciate your comment
conspiracy guy is cool , cause that is alwyays my call to start talking crazy in vent and usualy someone cares enough to acutaly verify if im just BS or not...

I figured this is the best place to bring this up.

The article below speaks volumes of the kind of crap that passes for "mainstream economic thought" in the USA these days :

"Paul Krugman: Fake Alien Invasion Would End Economic Slump"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/15/paul-krugman-fake-alien-invasion_n_926995.html

Three words : "Broken window fallacy" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_window_fallacy )

I'm gonna break Godwin's Law here willingly and say that you'd expect Nazis , yes the real-life ones, to say "well we need to wage war to prop up the economy". Hell, that's why Germany went to war. If Germany didn't go to war, its economy would have collapsed under a mountain of inflation from all of the govt spending (especially military, with the 1935 Re-armament onwards and all ) that it was raking up. Hitler's economic measures that bailed out ( you read that right, damn it! ) Germany basically meant 100% Keynesianism : spend, spend,spend, have the government hire everyone they can. Unfortunately, government spending is like drugs : short-term high, long-term rod up the ***. There has never, in history, been a government that could "manufacture" a middle-class, and decent standards of living for most people, all by itself. Exploiting, somebody else, yes, either a sector of its own citizens, or citizens of another country, except that inevitably leads to upheavals. That never lasts.

I have this good friend in the USA, left 2 years ago to work at Microsoft's HQ in Redmond, near Seattle. I kept telling him "Dude, Obama will not challenge the entrenched corporate and military elites because he can't. He'll get assassinated if he does. The bailout won't do jack squat for the economy. Only the corporate aristocracy" (yes you read that fucking right. The USA has an aristocracy . ) He didn't believe me. Now I keep telling him to :
- buy gold
- buy a gun
- listen to Peter Schiff

But in all seriousness, I'm a bit of a history buff. I love history. And I've seen this happen before. Economic hardship, military humiliation, wounded national ego, scapegoating "outside" elements. This never ends well for a nation that has such a... well-developed view of itself to put it politely.

I LOVE HISTORY!

DacianWolf wrote:

I figured this is the best place to bring this up.

The article below speaks volumes of the kind of crap that passes for "mainstream economic thought" in the USA these days :

"Paul Krugman: Fake Alien Invasion Would End Economic Slump"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/15/paul-krugman-fake-alien-invasion_n_926995.html

Three words : "Broken window fallacy" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_window_fallacy )

I'm gonna break Godwin's Law here willingly and say that you'd expect Nazis , yes the real-life ones, to say "well we need to wage war to prop up the economy". Hell, that's why Germany went to war. If Germany didn't go to war, its economy would have collapsed under a mountain of inflation from all of the govt spending (especially military, with the 1935 Re-armament onwards and all ) that it was raking up. Hitler's economic measures that bailed out ( you read that right, damn it! ) Germany basically meant 100% Keynesianism : spend, spend,spend, have the government hire everyone they can. Unfortunately, government spending is like drugs : short-term high, long-term rod up the ***. There has never, in history, been a government that could "manufacture" a middle-class, and decent standards of living for most people, all by itself. Exploiting, somebody else, yes, either a sector of its own citizens, or citizens of another country, except that inevitably leads to upheavals. That never lasts.

I have this good friend in the USA, left 2 years ago to work at Microsoft's HQ in Redmond, near Seattle. I kept telling him "Dude, Obama will not challenge the entrenched corporate and military elites because he can't. He'll get assassinated if he does. The bailout won't do jack squat for the economy. Only the corporate aristocracy" (yes you read that fucking right. The USA has an aristocracy . ) He didn't believe me. Now I keep telling him to :
- buy gold
- buy a gun
- listen to Peter Schiff

But in all seriousness, I'm a bit of a history buff. I love history. And I've seen this happen before. Economic hardship, military humiliation, wounded national ego, scapegoating "outside" elements. This never ends well for a nation that has such a... well-developed view of itself to put it politely.

Right On Brotha

I don't really believe Americans would kill their own. No way. Putin, Kim Chen Ir - I'd believe, but not even drunk villager Bush would do that. And not his dad. It's cries of people who want to show that government is S***, and it's either that they are US-haters (sometimes hidden) or they're willing to have another political force running the country. Outside, no one really cares. No one called all those people joined the Armed Forces. If US had conscription system, it would make sense - call out war and drag people in Forces. But since it's voluntary and people had all that talks about "fake" 9/11, it's their own mistake they have stepped into the frame, so there's no need to cry over "innocent military and their families" if you believe in conspiracy of 9/11 thing.

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NATO Slaughter Of Libyan Civilians Continues
By JoAnne Moriarty
8-20-11

You all should know that NATO is rabid to take Zawia so that they can stop ALL supplies to Tripoli. Today, Sky news reported a HUGE LIE about how everyone in Zawia is happy about the rebels (NOT EVER) and the rebels are in control of Zawia (not true). They are now openly admitting that they have foreign troops, weapons, etc., in their midst. This particular reporter was overheard discussing this lie and he stated that NATO had informed HIM that they will kill ANYBODY, to include civilians who get in their way of taking over the Libyan Government. NATO sent 17 bombs into civilian neighbor hoods the night before and they sent Apache gunships into the square in Zawia where the civilians were celebrating the routing of the rebel gangs out of their city. They fired on these unarmed citizens with the gunships and killed many, including the brother of Dr. Moussa Ibrahim.

According to our inside sources, Zawia is the rebels attempt at a "last stand", they are in their death dance and NATO is frantic. They have lost Misurata, they have lost Zlitan, they are not in control anywhere in the west now. So, killing civilians is on the table. What I don't understand is how they think they can take Tripoli when 2 million people here are against them? Most of the Tripoli people are armed now, this country is completely against these rebels, more than 90% - How in the hell do they plan to take over? Who will follow them? It will have to be a police state, NATO has become a terrorist organization, with the western news media in complete compliance.

NATO is using AMERICAN made Apache helicopters to kill innocent civilians who are celebrating the rout of the rebel gangs from their city, the crimes are multiple. First by US law no military weapons of any kind can be used by anyone in aggressive acts, so here is US hardware killing unarmed innocent civilians. Second, NATO was NEVER authorized to fire upon unarmed civilians. Third, the UN was never authorized to fire upon unarmed innocent civilians, so violation of both the UN and NATO charters have occurred. Also, when massive numbers of civilian deaths are involved then violation of International laws have been committed but worse than that is the violation of human rights that have occurred.

We have asked these people what they would do if Ghadafi was killed? They state that any chance there might have been in the past for reconciliation with these rebels has completely disappeared. At one time it may have been NATO against Ghadafi but now it is NATO against the civilians. All the Libyans we meet tell us that they are now fighting for their country and their culture. When NATO blows up a power plant, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, when NATO blockades fuel and food and medicine, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, when NATO bombs the civilian neighbor hoods, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, and the list goes on.

We came here on a fact finding mission and have learned things that have shocked us to our core. We are witness to numerous atrocities by NATO and these so called rebels being supported actively, in any way, by NATO. The treatment of Libyan civilians as if they are not human and have no rights, the blatant killing, raping, murdering and bombing of all kinds of civilians and civilian infrastructure removes any thought of legitimacy that NATO or these rebels could ever hope to garner. We stand as witness to the world and we scream to the world ­ STOP THIS INHUMANITY, STOP THE KILLING, STOP THE SEIGE, on the innocent people of Libya. NATO and their illegal minions do not want to accept that 90% of the Libyan people DO NOT WANT THESE rebels in charge of anything. So, what next, kill 90% of the Libyans? Where is their mantra - "we want democracy?" - Now?

The people of the world need to open their eyes and stand up against these daily crimes against humanity and blatant attempt to over throw a sovereign government which is not permitted by an statute anywhere in the world.
Jimmy and JoAnne

(this can also be found at [link to www.rense.com]
More facts and links:

- Libya is run by a coalition of tribal families. It has NEVER been a dictatorship. Gaddafi simply does not have the power of a dictator.
- most of the rebels are not Libyan civilians. those who are come from tribal families who want more power.
- the people are NOT oppressed, and enjoy state-of-the-art FREE medical and education services
- the whole 'uprising' has been organised from outside the country
- Libya sits on a sea of light crude oil. this is the stuff which sets the price for all other petroleum products. Germany and Italy want this oil.
- Libya has massive underground fresh water aquifers, which the French corporations want (French multinationals control the largest market share of bottled water)
- Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE and other Arab countries have been promised some of the spoils - all of these are western puppet dictatorships
- Libya has significant gold bullion reserves
- Gaddafi has repeatedly warned the west of a looming new world order. He claims to have been invited to join, and refused.
- Gaddafi repeatedly tried to establish an alternative to the draconian money lenders (the IMF and the World Bank). He tried to set up an pan-African equivalent of the Fed, where countries could deposit and borrow from a central bank, WITHOUT the insane conditions levied by the IMF/World Bank gangsters.
- Gaddafi has refused to cooperate with the proposed body to rule Africa - AFRICOM
- Gaddafi has regularly denounced other Arab countries as being the puppet states of France, UK and the USA that they are.
- Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, has been at the forefront of spreading lies and propaganda about Libya. It has a British Intelligence asset.

for these reasons and more, everyone ganged up on Libya - and they are intending to carve it up.

Other facts:

- there was NO massacre of Libyan civilians by Gaddafi forces earlier this year, as claimed by the west for the start of the 'uprising'
- there were NO warplanes strafing civilians - that was all proven to be total bullshit
- the rebels were not winning the hearts and minds of the rest of the Libyan-based tribes - and more Libyans were turning AGAINST the 'rebels'
- it is the rebels engaging with Tunisian forces, not the Libyans


Some links and video to give recent perspective from other independent journalists:

Links to show the rebels are NOT winning as being reported lately on mainstream: