This i know will make much of you very happy. from previous things that i cant say that has happened today and yeserday. i have tooken in high consederation of now leaving sinse all my work to get somthing positive and i get more negitive then expected. so hope your happy children.

This wont make the banshees, or whats left of em, happy. You are giving up a leader position which other clans will not give you instantly. If you want more guys just go recruit some on official forums.

Honestly, I really hate to see any members of the [13th] leave but I don't see the necessity to make a generalization about every single person in this clan to be immature and childish.

I'd like to think since I've been here that I've presented myself with respect for myself and to everyone else.

Sorry to see you leave though but sometimes you've got to do what you've got to do.

i never said that just the seletive people that were being that.

what members no one would be upset sinse our only active members are banned and the others are mia way before the squad was started.

I would honestly be sad to see you go. Although you and I may have had disagreements in game and on this forum I nevertheless value the contribution you have made to this thing of ours, and so I would ask you only to consider wether this is a decision you are making with a clear head.

I think if you feel the need to call people out, do it in a PM. if you really gave a S*** about the clan, you wouldn't disrespect ALL of us.

I've been known to be a D***, but I do it all in good fun. Though I had nothing to do between you and the others and super, or anyone else.

I personally think that if you're going to be disrespectful to the entire clan, you should be removed from service, like super writing "13th sucks", or people calling others children.

I personally, don't like being called a child. I take high offense to it.

Feel free to call me a d-bag or a dickhead, though.

Just saying...

FTM, calm plox, I see what you're getting at though. This seems to be another thing that has sprout up do to , what I'll call, "the problem". My personal feelings being that we need to stop talking about this and cool our jets before making any rash decisions. Legend, we don't want you gone, I've recruited a couple of my friends to the Banshees and they enjoy having you as their SA, so please consider staying. As for everyone else, COOL IT! Bronx will be back soon to talk to the COs (I'm assuming the only two involved, Aron and FTM.) and he'll try to straighten this all out. Until then, do not make decisions to quit off of this, we've seen times like this before and a lot of us find it blows over quicker if less people make a big deal of it. This is the last I will ever say of the subject, and hopefully the last anyone will openly post of it. If you have anymore to say about the subject, please, save it until bronx has time to talk it over with people. I love this clan dearly, its given me hours of fun and I've made tons of friends here, I don't want to see it being torn apart.

P.S. If you have a reply to this, feel free to post it but know that I won't reply. I don't want to argue over it, and I don't want someone who shares the same view as me to accidentally start something with someone else. If a CO has a problem with this post, feel free to remove it, I really don't mind. I was just stating my opinion and trying to calm things down.

I'm not mad. Also not involved beyond saying that it needs to stop.

I don't want to see anyone leave, especially not Liam (he's been a TON of help to me, and it would hurt the clan not to have him) OR Legend.

So again. It's got to stop. Now. That is all.

Tell me you didn't just post a maybe leaving post. xD We're the children..?

No. Stop it....stop it.....(as said by Jesus to the Romans in Family Guy.)

Holy crap things have gotten out of hand. :/

Legend don't leave things happen we move on it's part of bein humAn

so stay man there's no point leavin

Austynn wrote:

Holy crap things have gotten out of hand. :/

understatement - Restraint or lack of emphasis in expression...

I have decided not to leave but i am not going to attempt to do one thing for the clan anymore seeing all i got was disrespect and loyal members baned from it, if you post in reply (and you will more than lickly) i will not read it or care i have better things to deal with than immaturity and helping to get more immaturity.

Legend 428---- Signing out

oh yeah and it does hurt the clan, mabye not one person leaving but all the people leaving as a whole, and the people who have left and are to lazy to announce it, what good would it be to have the CoC members but lose lets say 60% of active members and lets say 30% of them leave because of CoC actions and 25% because of inactivity. it hurts it alot. thing like that make the (lets compare 13th to a ship) "ship" sink to the dead bottom of the ocean.

Me axx, and endrane seem to be the only ones, havent seen bronx in a while.

So basically your quitting...without actually quitting? Personally sounds like my little brother when he wants something but doesn't wanna work for it.

For example: Mike wants a new thing of legos, but is not willing to clean his room for it.

You want a place in the clan, but don't want to earn the right to stay in by working for the clan...I'd say more but this'll probably be enough to start an argument that I really don't feel like having. Look, I've stated before that you are liked within this clan, that there are people who look up to you. But if you're just going to be taking up space, and using the clans name without earning the right to, may be you should just go. And yeah, losing members does hurt us, but as long as there is at least one person loyal to the 13th, the 13th will remain, even if its made up of only that one person.

All I'm going to say.

no its just im not going to help the clan out to get some bs. this is what 65% of the clan does anyway.

Legend 428 wrote:

oh yeah and it does hurt the clan, mabye not one person leaving but all the people leaving as a whole, and the people who have left and are to lazy to announce it, what good would it be to have the CoC members but lose lets say 60% of active members and lets say 30% of them leave because of CoC actions and 25% because of inactivity. it hurts it alot. thing like that make the (lets compare 13th to a ship) "ship" sink to the dead bottom of the ocean.

Incorrect. Members leave. That's why we recruit. The ones who don't care leave, and the one who care stay. Those who stay look for more who will care and stay, though sometimes they find those who leave. S*** happens. The [13]th will survive, even if ALL of us leave, Bronx will just recruit again, like he did when he first started the clan. That's just how it works.

Though, I won't be leaving anytime soon.

Legend 428 wrote:

I have decided not to leave but i am not going to attempt to do one thing for the clan anymore seeing all i got was disrespect and loyal members baned from it, if you post in reply (and you will more than lickly) i will not read it or care i have better things to deal with than immaturity and helping to get more immaturity.

Legend 428---- Signing out

If you don't like the clan, then leave. Don't just stay and take up space. I'd hate to see anyone leave, but there's no point in being here if this's the case.

And none of my posts to you have been immature. I'm tired of that word. People are thowing it around to mean "I didn't like what you said"

FTMBrushFire wrote:

Legend 428 wrote:

oh yeah and it does hurt the clan, mabye not one person leaving but all the people leaving as a whole, and the people who have left and are to lazy to announce it, what good would it be to have the CoC members but lose lets say 60% of active members and lets say 30% of them leave because of CoC actions and 25% because of inactivity. it hurts it alot. thing like that make the (lets compare 13th to a ship) "ship" sink to the dead bottom of the ocean.

Incorrect. Members leave. That's why we recruit. The ones who don't care leave, and the one who care stay. Those who stay look for more who will care and stay, though sometimes they find those who leave. S*** happens. The [13]th will survive, even if ALL of us leave, Bronx will just recruit again, like he did when he first started the clan. That's just how it works.

Though, I won't be leaving anytime soon.

I'm with FTM on that one. As endrane said on another thread, we saw this exact same thing happen last year, we'll make it through.

i never said you were just the people that were during the situation, you got involved after it had, umm you would say calmed down.

never had a problem with you legend. thought you were a good player and communicated well in game. on the forums you posted ideas and things you saw in game. two thumbs up there.


the only thing i noticed was when i was in party with you and your friends. it was more than game chat which drove me nuts. yelling, screaming, etc. blew my ears. not sure if you guys are RL friends or not (sounds like it) but that chatter wasn't for the game and that's why i usually left your parties. nothing against you or your friends, but just wasn't very coordinated for how i like to play.

i know you want to defend your friends against an attack by others, i don't know the whole story, but it seems to me it got out of hand on both sides. i understand you want to take your friends side, but cursing on the forums and not seeing it another's way isn't the best way. as far as your friends being loyal and the most active, i cannot attest to that either. i hardly see that you and them are online ever. must be before i get on, and i don't check history of who was online hours ago as i don't really care. i'm on almost every day.

anyways, i hope you find what you are looking for. if it's not here, i still wish you the best. no hard feelings.