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«13th»hav0k569: Okay im going to pitch an idea to you here it is
«13th»hav0k569: How about in an FPS mp we could have weapons that get damaged over time and need to be repaired or guns that jam after so much wear and tear, also have an mp mode that make one team protect a nulcear facility filled with of course nukes but like bc2
«13th»hav0k569: 's rush you would have to work your way to the nuke then arm it and protect it for about 5 minutes while the other team has to keep you from arming it?
pigmazurka: 5 minutes?
pigmazurka: Seems unnescesary
pigmazurka: It would take a long time to arm and a long time to disarm
«13th»hav0k569: idk about 5 mintues i was throwing out a number
«13th»hav0k569: the idea needs to be fleshed out but i was throwing it out there what you think?
pigmazurka: Actually sounds really good
pigmazurka: The wear and tear, not the time for the game mode
pigmazurka: Game mode sounds nice, after tweaking
«13th»hav0k569: yeah he only reason i said 5 was because I know kz2 has you wait about 50 seconds to disarm the charges but eh
pigmazurka: S***, really?
pigmazurka: 50 seconds?
«13th»hav0k569: yeah dude some people customize it to be 1 whole minute
pigmazurka: Damn
«13th»hav0k569: but yeah any feedback would be welcome, also your attachemnts could wear and tear like too much splash damage from grenades could break your armor or attachemnts and have certain levels of wear and tear be fully visual to the player, like the glass in the scopes start to crack or have missing peices of metal on the guns, and if your gun breaks there will be an animation for that then if it does break you'll have to quickly find another gun
pigmazurka: The future is open
pigmazurka: Realism to an extent of neediness
pigmazurka: If you respawn I don't think you should still have the wear and tear though
«13th»hav0k569: it wont
pigmazurka: Although it should proceed to tear over time
pigmazurka: And there should be an area before the game starts where you repair
pigmazurka: Or purchase/unlock new weapons with some point system
pigmazurka: For 2 minutes you should be there before the match
«13th»hav0k569: Good idea or hell be able to even call in helicopters or tanks to be dropped in when certain things are done
pigmazurka: That means the game can't be as infantry centric
«13th»hav0k569: true but this will probably only apply to certain maps
«13th»hav0k569: and you could only call in so many vehicles at a time
pigmazurka: Kind of like seelow from world at war?
«13th»hav0k569: sort of like that
pigmazurka: It'd have to be crafted better than Seelow
pigmazurka: Seelow was too big to traverse on foot
«13th»hav0k569: yeah it was, i don't want it to fell like BC2 that much but something totally unique. hell it might not even be a military shooter could be sci fi shooter idk
pigmazurka: sci fi is good
pigmazurka: And
pigmazurka: I think there should be a system to get in vehicles
pigmazurka: Instead of just magically teleporting inside like BC2
«13th»hav0k569: Like what?
pigmazurka: There's a humvee : you open the door, climb up, sit down, close the door
«13th»hav0k569: yeah i know have a whole animation showing the vehicles being dropped off and when you get in it'll show you doing it
pigmazurka: You hop on the back of the humvee, set your gun down, pull up a rail to stop the equipment from sliding off, move into the turret
«13th»hav0k569: sounds nice
pigmazurka: It's so much better
pigmazurka: Like the halo games
pigmazurka: You don't just pop inside
pigmazurka: Risk for reward, you can get shot while moving inside
«13th»hav0k569: yDefinitely but how would we put up with n00bs bithcing about it
pigmazurka: Make it an anti noob friendly game
«13th»hav0k569: That will be very hard considering a lot of the gaming community is made up of whiny little bitches and teenage douchebags
pigmazurka: I understand the teenage douchebag thing
pigmazurka:
pigmazurka: But, keeping on track
pigmazurka: I think there should also be a gun range outside of MP
pigmazurka: Have like targets set up to see how far bullets drop over time
pigmazurka: Balistics gel to see how far bullets penetrate
«13th»hav0k569: Good idea kind of like a practice round that teaches you how to lead a target and makes you learn LOTS of military techniques
pigmazurka: Mmhmm
«13th»hav0k569: but all the while still being fun
pigmazurka: Yeah
pigmazurka: Don't want realism like games like AA and ARMA
«13th»hav0k569: Nope
pigmazurka: There's a point where realism stops being fun, obviously
«13th»hav0k569: it might not teach you all of them, maybe your basics about flanking and stuff
pigmazurka: Basic things needed for teamwork
pigmazurka: Being sci fi there could be AI you could train against
«13th»hav0k569: most definitely and we'll reward teamwork and encourage it
pigmazurka: Thinking of flanking we have to have a cover system
pigmazurka: Breaching and clearing, actually
«13th»hav0k569: Yeah and being able to go from cover to cover seamlessly and be able to jump over onto the other side of cover
pigmazurka: Should cover be in 3rd person?
pigmazurka: It's hard to do that without being OP though
pigmazurka: It's too much of an advantage...
pigmazurka: FP cover is interesting to think about
«13th»hav0k569: No it would take you out of the immersion we're obviously trying to put players in
pigmazurka: Realling nice to think about
pigmazurka: Really*
pigmazurka: FP cover is giving you protection without taking away the other players chances
«13th»hav0k569: It's keeping everything fair and adds to that level of tension
pigmazurka: Peak and lean has to be there, too
pigmazurka: Something games like to overlook
pigmazurka: And blind fire is still an option
pigmazurka: But, can't make it like CoD where bullets come out at an impossible angle
pigmazurka: So it would still be inaccurate, but wouldn't be crazy impossible to hit
pigmazurka: Still with me here?
pigmazurka: Also makes me think of having character attributes like muscle mass
pigmazurka: Oh come on, goin afk?
«13th»hav0k569: back
pigmazurka: Alrght
pigmazurka: Read what I said
pigmazurka: Peak and lean, muscle mass
«13th»hav0k569: Yeah that sounds really good dude
pigmazurka: things like blind fire, and having stronger arms to make it where as you can withstand more recoil
«13th»hav0k569: You there?
«13th»hav0k569: Good idea
pigmazurka: Don't worry I'm still here
«13th»hav0k569: But Im gettin tired try and save this conversation and tomorrow we'll build upon it tomrrow i have to get some sleep
«13th»hav0k569: it's almost 4 here
pigmazurka: Alright, mind if I post this on the forums?
«13th»hav0k569: Hell yeah dude I think we should try and make this damn game but we live across the country and we lack the resources and materials
pigmazurka: I just want to get through school and get a degree for things like this
«13th»hav0k569: yeah me too
pigmazurka: Gonna post this on the forums for further continuations
pigmazurka: Night
«13th»hav0k569: Okay dude
«13th»hav0k569: night
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- Pig