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pH4nT0m
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PostSubject: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 3:23 pm

Ok so here i'm doing this guide (tactics) for Grand Bazaar because i noticed we play our scrims disorganized, and since this is the most common map in scrims, i will be doing a guide for it first. Let's begin Smile

For this map LAV or BMP are crucial for winning. Without it the whole map will give us a hard time. And because of that the squads should be like this IMO(counting as 8v8 match):

Alpha: 3x Engineer, 1x Assault
Bravo: 3x Engineer, 1x Support

-Why 6 engineers?
Because you MUST keep the LAV (BMP) alive. If you don't, as i said the map will give us a hard time capturing objectives.

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Loadouts:

LAV/BMP loadout:

IR Smoke (because of possible javelins)
APFSDS-T Shell (for taking out armor, enemy LAV/BMP in this case)
Reactive Armor (resistance to RPG's)

In the LAV 2 engineers should stack up with a driver and constantly repair him when needed. The other engineers are there in case they die. They should repair the LAV/BMP by all cost.

Assault loadout (works best for most of the people)

-M16A3 (Red dot or KOBRA, Foregrip, Suppressor)
-Pistol of choice (After the patch preferably 44 Magnum)
-M320 smoke (If not allowed then medkit)
-Perk: Squad Ammo

Support loadout
-Weapon of choice
-Pistol of choice (After the patch preferably 44 Magnum)
-C4 Explosives
-Perk: Squad Suppression

Engineer loadout (works best for most of the people)
-M4A1 (Red dot or KOBRA, Foregrip, Suppressor)
-Pistol of choice (After the patch preferably 44 Magnum)
-SMAW/RPG
-Repair Tool
-Perk:
*Alpha:
-1st Engineer: Squad Explosives
-2nd Engineer: Squad Cover
-3rd Engineer: Squad Suppression
*Bravo:
-1st Engineer: Squad Explosives
-2nd Engineer: Squad Cover
-3rd Engineer: Squad Ammo

Weapons for these loadouts can be changed of course, but the rest must be NOT!
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Here are some images of tactics:

-Conquest small

US side:

[GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) Pz9Vq

Once the round starts 1 Alpha squad Engineer and 2 Bravo squad Engineers enter the LAV and start rushing to C like on the image. The rest of the team stacks up in the Humvee and follows the path like on the image. Once there they get out. Support guy lays his bipod on the stairs that look towards C (will show on practice exactly where). He suppresses the guys and shoots constantly while other guys get in place and start capturing B. The LAV destroys enemy BMP and starts suppressing C so he draws attention. One engineer gets out of LAV and starts capturing C. Some of the Russian guys start to fall back for C. That's the time where guys capturing B push up even more. That's a sandwich right there. If that fails and they don't push back, 2 guys that are capturing B are going to flank thru "Flanking alley" and then thru "Market alley". The LAV after capturing C (hopefully) supports the rest of the teammates. After that try to keep B and A. If we loose A, LAV rushes there and clears up the place. That's it Smile

RU side:

[GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) Ya1mE

Once the round starts 1 Alpha squad Engineer and 2 Bravo squad Engineers enter the BMP and start rushing to A like on the image. The rest gets in Vodnik and starts going to "Flanking Alley". Three guys get out on C, one starts capturing and the rest go through "Market Alley". Two guys go thru "Flanking Alley" and start sandwiching US guys on B. BMP suppresses A and starts capturing it. Some guys will retreat to recapture A and that's the time when Alpha and Bravo squads capture B. One guy from either Alpha or Bravo goes around to "American Alley" and waits for upcoming guys that are going to recapture A. Then just maintain points, and if we have only C, Just repeat the tactic from beginning again. That's it Smile
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I hope we try this tomorrow on practice Smile
Hope you liked it, see you


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AWulle
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 5:21 pm

Great stuff

Thank you, ill try to put this in practise sometimes Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 4:23 am

I don't think it's a good idea to use the suppressor post patch, the heavy barrel is much better. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 5:00 am

The supressor is still brilliant just for the fact that you don't show up on the minimap. And the patch made it so it doesn't reduce damage.
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 7:44 am

AndreLibo wrote:
I don't think it's a good idea to use the suppressor post patch, the heavy barrel is much better. Smile
That's just a recommendation by me, you don't have to use it but it's highly recommended, because it doesn't give you any negative effect on M4A1 and M16A3
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 8:00 am

everybody should try to learn the name of these positions as well, it's only 5 Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 9:08 am

There, the tactics are final, hope you like it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 7:15 pm

Hooah!
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyFri Apr 13, 2012 1:47 am

I find the proximity scanner helps a lot when using the lav on grand bazaar but mabye that's just me
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 6:59 pm

Not funny this scrim we need to practice much more some tactics
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 7:30 pm

Great information, looking forward to participating in these runs during practices.
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyThu Jan 17, 2013 11:42 am

Oh... if you have launched explosives like RPG/M320, if you run into a huge wave of enemies at Bravo (aka Death Alley), then shoot one into the buildings up top. It rains debris on them, and can possibly kill.
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PostSubject: Re: [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE)   [GUIDE] Grand Bazaar (UPDATED FOR RU SIDE) EmptyThu Jan 17, 2013 3:37 pm

ya old news but thanks for the tip Razz some of the buildings outside death alley have the same effect, most notoriously those around the last 3 mcom stations on rush.

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