I thought I should post the great exchange I had with Pigmurka tonight.
Enjoy
[02:29:26]«13th» axx bytehoven: hey
[02:29:41]«13th»PigMazurka: Hey
[02:32:33]«13th» axx bytehoven: I'd love to hear some thoughts on strategy for playing the game for when I jump in.
[02:32:52]«13th»PigMazurka: Depends what gametype you're playing
[02:32:57]«13th»PigMazurka: And which weapon you're using
[02:33:19]«13th»PigMazurka: Me, Arondeslo, Zero and a few others probably won 20 or so CTF games today
[02:33:25]«13th»PigMazurka: We didn't lose once
[02:33:28]«13th» axx bytehoven: - What's a good way to start and build exsperience and points?
[02:33:45]«13th»PigMazurka: Don't just spend your money right away.
[02:33:56]«13th»PigMazurka: Once you unlock CTF get a good part and play that.
[02:33:59]«13th»PigMazurka: party*
[02:34:20]«13th» axx bytehoven: What's your favorite soldier class?
[02:34:22]«13th»PigMazurka: Also, each gun acts as it should. There's no gun that rules every encounter.
[02:34:34]«13th»PigMazurka: It depends what I'm doing
[02:34:57]«13th»PigMazurka: Assault rifles do well mid range, go farther then that and you'll start to be inaccurate
[02:35:18]«13th»PigMazurka: SMG's do very well close range, and okay mid range
[02:35:39]«13th»PigMazurka: Shotguns dominate close range. If you see a shotgun when rounding a corner prepare to die.
[02:35:50]«13th»PigMazurka: LMG's are strictly support.
[02:36:00]«13th»PigMazurka: They reload slow, and you lose a LOT of mobility.
[02:36:08]«13th»PigMazurka: Even with lightweight.
[02:36:26]«13th»PigMazurka: Sniper rifles don't dominate long range, but they exceed more than most others.
[02:36:45]«13th»PigMazurka: Remember those tips.
[02:37:02]«13th»PigMazurka: Unlock MW2 or BC2 you can't snipe someone with an SMG.
[02:37:11]«13th»PigMazurka: Unlike*
[02:37:17]«13th» axx bytehoven: I love it. Thanks When you guys played tonight, what was your squad tactics?
[02:37:37]«13th»PigMazurka: We would just call out "Defending" or "Rushing"
[02:37:39]«13th»PigMazurka: Easy as that
[02:38:00]«13th»PigMazurka: We destroyed everything in our path
[02:38:04]«13th» axx bytehoven: What are randoms playing, mostly sniper style?
[02:38:22]«13th»PigMazurka: Randoms are mostly SMG's and AR's
[02:38:40]«13th»PigMazurka: They're the closest to balanced
[02:39:05]«13th» axx bytehoven: I suppose it depens on the map, but is CQB with a shot gun one of the strogest playing styles?
[02:39:36]«13th»PigMazurka: The shotguns are EXTREMELY powerful in close range.
[02:39:47]«13th»PigMazurka: Especially the SPAS.
[02:40:26]«13th»PigMazurka: The SPAS holds 8 shots, has an awesome range, and can have a suppressor which makes it almost COMPLETELY silent without giving up much range
[02:40:36]«13th»PigMazurka: It's semi-automatic
[02:41:13]«13th» axx bytehoven: 12ga silencer... sweet even though it's pure fantacy.
[02:41:21]«13th»PigMazurka: I know
[02:41:26]«13th»PigMazurka: It's my favorite gun, hands down.
[02:41:46]«13th» axx bytehoven: can you work toward the setup in any class?
[02:41:50]«13th»PigMazurka: The guys cry like babies when I pull it out
[02:41:57]«13th»PigMazurka: Hmm?
[02:42:33]«13th» axx bytehoven: pardon my lack of knowledge of how the soildier classes unlock. I didn't want to assume the SPAS is available to everyone.
[02:42:49]«13th»PigMazurka: It's unlocked for purchase level 24
[02:42:58]«13th»PigMazurka: Every gun costs 2000 credits.
[02:43:14]«13th»PigMazurka: You'll earn 1000 - 2500 credits every time you level.
[02:43:15]«13th» axx bytehoven: How locg does it take to get to level 24?
[02:43:30]«13th»PigMazurka: It took me a few days.
[02:43:35]«13th»PigMazurka: I'm almost first prestige
[02:43:49]«13th» axx bytehoven: Thanks.
[02:43:53]«13th»PigMazurka: 10 more levels I'll hit 50
[02:44:22]«13th»PigMazurka: When you get the game the best thing I can say is to not buy everything and anything once you get the chance to.
[02:44:25]«13th»PigMazurka: Save your credits.
[02:44:29]«13th» axx bytehoven: are noob players really out matched?
[02:44:50]«13th»PigMazurka: Only a little, but gun skill still rules in general.
[02:45:16]«13th» axx bytehoven: What would you suggest the 1st big purchase should be?
[02:45:36]«13th»PigMazurka: Sleight of hand. Dear god I love sleight of hand.
[02:45:49]«13th»PigMazurka: Sleight of hand rules the red perk slot IMHO
[02:46:07]«13th»PigMazurka: Most people don't use it for some reason
[02:46:10]«13th»PigMazurka: But
[02:46:14]«13th»PigMazurka: It makes my life easier
[02:46:24]«13th»PigMazurka: Also, the pro version costs 3000
[02:46:31]«13th»PigMazurka: Regular perk costs 2000
[02:46:50]«13th» axx bytehoven: Is sleight of hand kind like a Luck bonus?
[02:46:53]«13th»PigMazurka: You start with lightweight, hardened (FMJ), and gas mask
[02:47:00]«13th»PigMazurka: It'll save you
[02:47:03]«13th»PigMazurka: A lot
[02:47:31]«13th»PigMazurka: To get the pro version you need to complete three challenges
[02:47:43]«13th» axx bytehoven: oh, FJM ammo, lower terminal ballistics.
[02:47:54]«13th» axx bytehoven: FMJ that is
[02:48:04]«13th»PigMazurka: It increases bullet penetration
[02:48:11]«13th»PigMazurka: The pro version is much better
[02:48:17]«13th»PigMazurka: It decreases flinch when shot
[02:49:01]«13th»PigMazurka: Gas mask is useful, but I like marathon more
[02:49:14]«13th» axx bytehoven: Is there a website I can research while wait on my copy of BO to arrive?
[02:49:30]«13th»PigMazurka: I think I've got a link, one sec
[02:50:56]«13th»PigMazurka:
http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/multiplayer/perks#[02:51:04]«13th»PigMazurka: This page should help you.
[02:51:34]«13th» axx bytehoven: lloks great thanks
[02:51:40]«13th»PigMazurka: No problem.
[02:51:54]«13th»PigMazurka: What would you say your playstyle is?
[02:52:52]«13th» axx bytehoven: I feel I tend to learn how to use the map to help attack/defend. I don't have best twitch skills and I hate camping, so I have to be careful if I want to win gun fights.
[02:53:12]«13th»PigMazurka: Would you say you run around more often then sit still?
[02:53:18]«13th»PigMazurka: If so invest in the sub machine guns.
[02:54:10]«13th» axx bytehoven: Yes, I move at the expense of dying a bit more then others, but I am mission driven. I'm often the one arming/disarming the objectives or taking out an enmy position like a heavy MG.
[02:54:44]«13th»PigMazurka: That's how I usually like to play.
[02:54:47]«13th»PigMazurka: Invest in SMG's.
[02:55:13]«13th»PigMazurka: The Skorpion and MAC11 are outclassed by the MP5k, so just get attachements for it.
[02:55:15]«13th» axx bytehoven: Until I can unlock a silenced SPAS.
[02:55:20]«13th»PigMazurka: Yes
[02:55:45]«13th»PigMazurka: The silencer isn't needed, but I like it.
[02:56:10]«13th»PigMazurka: Your best bet with perks is Lightweight, which you start out with
[02:56:16]«13th» axx bytehoven: I should copy paste this exchange on the COD forum.
[02:56:26]«13th»PigMazurka: Sleight of Hand, which you must buy
[02:56:44]«13th»PigMazurka: And Marathon, which you must buy
[02:56:56]«13th»PigMazurka: Lightweight, SoH, and Marathon.
[02:57:09]«13th»PigMazurka: I love this combination, it's my go to setup.
[02:57:41]«13th»PigMazurka: It shouldn't take you long to get the pro versions either
[02:58:11]«13th»PigMazurka: Best SMG's = MP5k, AK-74u, and MPL
[02:58:21]«13th»PigMazurka: These guns are great.
[02:58:42]«13th»PigMazurka: They will 9/10 times destroy AR's in CQB's
[02:59:07]«13th»PigMazurka: The Skorpion only does well at point blank range.
[02:59:40]«13th»PigMazurka: The MAC 11 is fun to use, and I had some good games with it, but it doesn't do well in most situations. You'll run out of ammo a lot.
[03:00:07]«13th» axx bytehoven: Have you played the G11
[03:00:14]«13th»PigMazurka: Oh god
[03:00:17]«13th»PigMazurka: It's such a beast
[03:00:31]«13th»PigMazurka: You have to buy every other AR to buy it.
[03:00:56]«13th»PigMazurka: It has a 48 round mag, a 3-burst shot, and almost always kills in one burst
[03:01:15]«13th» axx bytehoven: Is it worth the trip, or more like the disappointing M95 in BC2
[03:01:39]«13th»PigMazurka: I would say yes.
[03:01:50]«13th»PigMazurka: It only has two attachments, though
[03:02:03]«13th»PigMazurka: A low zoom scope, and a variable zoom scope
[03:02:50]«13th»PigMazurka: Each gun class has a classified gun
[03:02:59]«13th»PigMazurka: To buy it you have to buy every other gun
[03:03:05]«13th»PigMazurka: In that class, that is
[03:03:23]«13th»PigMazurka: For the SMG it's the Kiparis
[03:03:40]«13th»PigMazurka: I haven't seen many using this gun, and I hope to use it soon.
[03:03:52]«13th»PigMazurka: For the AR's it's the G11.
[03:03:59]«13th»PigMazurka: For the LMG's it's the Stoner
[03:04:11]«13th»PigMazurka: It's nice, I enjoyed using it
[03:04:13]«13th» axx bytehoven: HS-10 for shotties
[03:04:18]«13th»PigMazurka: Yes
[03:04:23]«13th»PigMazurka: I don't particularly like it
[03:04:30]«13th»PigMazurka: Only holds 4 shots
[03:04:42]«13th»PigMazurka: It does have the dual wield option, though...
[03:04:47]«13th» axx bytehoven: That's what is good to know, what not to waste time investing toward.
[03:05:04]«13th» axx bytehoven: How about launchers?
[03:05:13]«13th»PigMazurka: I haven't used those, at all.
[03:05:23]«13th»PigMazurka: They're secondaries.
[03:05:44]«13th»PigMazurka: Back to the Stoner 63
[03:05:53]«13th»PigMazurka: It fires very fast compared to the other LMG's
[03:06:08]«13th»PigMazurka: It has a small clip, but doesn't burn through it very fast.
[03:06:29]«13th»PigMazurka: It has a very nice iron sight, and nice accuracy at range
[03:06:48]«13th» axx bytehoven: 1000m range
[03:07:07]«13th»PigMazurka: It outclasses the other LMG's, IMHO.
[03:07:35]«13th»PigMazurka: A quick word of wisdom overall
[03:08:02]«13th»PigMazurka: Skorpion, MAC 11, Uzi, and the PM63 aren't guns to buy.
[03:08:32]«13th»PigMazurka: Stick to the MP5k, or buy the AK-74u
[03:08:41]«13th»PigMazurka: The MPL is also very nice.
[03:08:43]«13th» axx bytehoven: got it.
[03:08:54]«13th»PigMazurka: The LMG's are very good in general.
[03:08:58]«13th»PigMazurka: aren't*
[03:09:05]«13th» axx bytehoven: what about attachments?
[03:09:13]«13th»PigMazurka: That's a tough one
[03:09:30]«13th»PigMazurka: A lot of guns, even within the same class, have very different attachements.
[03:09:56]«13th»PigMazurka: Some SMG's have dual wield, some don't have the ability to have a RDS, and one even has a grenade launcher
[03:10:22]«13th»PigMazurka: I would use the increased rate of fire with the MP5k
[03:10:22]«13th» axx bytehoven: infrared scope of any use?
[03:10:29]«13th»PigMazurka: No, not really.
[03:10:35]«13th» axx bytehoven: what's master key?
[03:10:41]«13th»PigMazurka: Under barrel shotgun
[03:11:19]«13th»PigMazurka: Well, for AR's I wouldn't really use the grenade launcher or any of the under barrels.
[03:11:23]«13th» axx bytehoven: mag upgrades probably make sense
[03:11:32]«13th»PigMazurka: Yes, they do for a lot of guns.
[03:11:45]«13th»PigMazurka: Other guns should use the suppressor or the sights.
[03:12:05]«13th» axx bytehoven: does suppressor offer some tactical advantage?
[03:12:19]«13th»PigMazurka: Nothing besides keeping you off the radar
[03:12:28]«13th»PigMazurka: Most guns you can hear when being shot at
[03:12:38]«13th»PigMazurka: If they have a suppressor, that is
[03:13:08]«13th»PigMazurka: I like using the RDS on most guns, just because of the customization
[03:13:09]«13th» axx bytehoven: What about tactical gear, C4, etc?
[03:13:17]«13th»PigMazurka: That's a personal choice
[03:13:24]«13th»PigMazurka: They aren't really needed
[03:13:37]«13th»PigMazurka: Claymores are nice for defending flags, choke points
[03:14:03]«13th»PigMazurka: Cameras are nice for tactical games when you need to watch some points more than others.
[03:14:07]«13th» axx bytehoven: Tactical insertion?
[03:14:25]«13th»PigMazurka: It's good for some games, I like it for CTF when I defend
[03:14:45]«13th» axx bytehoven: The site you linked is awesome.
[03:15:01]«13th»PigMazurka: Yeah, you're welcome. I used it before the game came out
[03:15:23]«13th» axx bytehoven: do you use jammer when defending?
[03:15:32]«13th»PigMazurka: Nope. I use C4.
[03:15:37]«13th» axx bytehoven:
[03:15:40]«13th»PigMazurka: C4 has one downside
[03:15:46]«13th»PigMazurka: It's very easy to spot
[03:16:02]«13th»PigMazurka: It has a large blinking green light
[03:16:19]«13th»PigMazurka: You get two pieces though
[03:16:24]«13th»PigMazurka: And it can be thrown very far.
[03:16:57]«13th» axx bytehoven: Still, I imagine with careful placement, the green light might not be seen
[03:17:02]«13th»PigMazurka: True
[03:17:15]«13th»PigMazurka: There are some spots people overlook all the time
[03:17:55]«13th»PigMazurka: For lethal grenades I would stick to the frag.
[03:18:12]«13th»PigMazurka: I like using it more than the sticky grenade
[03:18:26]«13th» axx bytehoven: i willy any good as smoke cover for movement?
[03:18:33]«13th»PigMazurka: Nope.
[03:18:59]«13th»PigMazurka: It's got a small radius, but it does deploy very fast.
[03:19:05]«13th»PigMazurka: It explodes up and out
[03:19:06]«13th» axx bytehoven: stickie is the simtex?
[03:19:11]«13th»PigMazurka: Yes
[03:19:47]«13th»PigMazurka: The tactical grenades are a personal choice.
[03:20:10]«13th»PigMazurka: Decoy nades are pretty useful when the enemy has a spy plane up
[03:20:25]«13th» axx bytehoven: Do you employee kill street goodies?
[03:20:31]«13th» axx bytehoven: streak
[03:20:39]«13th»PigMazurka: What do you mean?
[03:21:02]«13th» axx bytehoven: just wondering from the list of killstreak goodies, what is worth it.
[03:21:20]«13th»PigMazurka: I haven't bought anything other than what they give you
[03:21:38]«13th»PigMazurka: Spy plane, care package, and attack helicopter.
[03:22:07]«13th»PigMazurka: It's a very balanced set up that I like and can obtain often
[03:22:35]«13th»PigMazurka: Also, the later killstreaks cost a LOT.
[03:22:47]«13th»PigMazurka: 6000 credits that could go to something better
[03:23:03]«13th» axx bytehoven: That's what I meant. Thanks
[03:23:37]«13th»PigMazurka: Anything else?
[03:23:55]«13th» axx bytehoven: Nope. I should copy/paste this exchange in a thread on the forums.
[03:24:14]«13th»PigMazurka: It could help a lot of people, so you should
